How is the PvE content long term going to be? - Guild Wars Forums

Elric Graystone · Apr 20, 2005, 10:59 PM // 22:59

I played the beta this weekend I believe in just in the questing area. LOVED IT. But is this game going to be balanced between PvE and PvP? Over on WoW you choose a server to either participate in PvP and ganking or go with a different server. Sounds like this going to all together but have separate quest zones to avoid ganking. But how about game content? Will both be equally as deep with content or be devoted to just one style of gameplay?

Manderlock · Apr 20, 2005, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by Elric Graystone

I played the beta this weekend I believe in just in the questing area. LOVED IT. But is this game going to be balanced between PvE and PvP? Over on WoW you choose a server to either participate in PvP and ganking or go with a different server. Sounds like this going to all together but have separate quest zones to avoid ganking. But how about game content? Will both be equally as deep with content or be devoted to just one style of gameplay?

The PvE is emence, you will have a hard time if your going to try and do all the quests and missions. PvP is great as well, there is never an exact same GvG match.

So yea your gonna have a lot on your plate.

Loviatar · Apr 20, 2005, 11:04 PM // 23:04

i am PVE and think of the game as a PVE wonder with a small area penned off for the pvp players

i do not begrudge them the space

i think we will have a very good pve time

Synthos · Apr 20, 2005, 11:07 PM // 23:07

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Originally Posted by Elric Graystone

I played the beta this weekend I believe in just in the questing area. LOVED IT. But is this game going to be balanced between PvE and PvP? Over on WoW you choose a server to either participate in PvP and ganking or go with a different server. Sounds like this going to all together but have separate quest zones to avoid ganking. But how about game content? Will both be equally as deep with content or be devoted to just one style of gameplay?

Um.. whats ganking.

Lets just say, Im interesed in the PVE enough for me to be interested in it for um a Years worth of betas? Ive only dabbled in PVP for a little while, Ive been consitantly studying all the builds and how to beat/play them. Once the game gets released then i will play PVP. But for me, PVE will definately be the best. Its quite fun playing with real people and its quite intense but with a friendlier antmosphere. When you hear someone shoting "OWWNNEEDDD" in PVE its usually someone who just killed a boss or something

THe best thing is there still is tons of PVE that hasn't been released to us yet, Ive also played the same missions over and over and its still quite fun because its a different experience each time you go out with a group. And im still finding tons of content that ive never seen everwhere i look in GW and ive been playing for a year!

Theres always been a balance between PVP and PVE. PVE is supposed to set up the PVP and PVP is really an endgame.

Loviatar · Apr 20, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by Synthos

Theres always been a balance between PVP and PVE. PVE is supposed to set up the PVP and PVP is really an endgame.

i think ganking is pking or grieffer playing

pvp may be an endgame but the PVE will go on and on

Freyas · Apr 20, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28

I've been in the alpha for 6 months, and still enjoy the PvE side of the game- I have played through it all, but the high-level areas are still great(think Underworld/Fissure of Woe) for the challenge, and it's enjoyable trying to make it through with different types of characters. Considering they're estimating an expansion every 6 months or so, I don't think that PvE players will get too bored with the content in the game before the next expansion comes out.

Auh · Apr 20, 2005, 11:41 PM // 23:41

I believe ganking is where you get teamed up on by multiple opponents, especially when you just went through a portal(A portal would be considered zoning in GW) But, Since you have your own copy of the map, this is practically impossible in GW.

Elric Graystone · Apr 21, 2005, 12:31 AM // 00:31

This all sounds really good.
Ganked in World of Warcraft is when your doing a quest or hunting animals or gathering trade goods off the land on your own and out of nowhere you are attacked and killed. Pretty irritating

Loviatar · Apr 21, 2005, 12:33 AM // 00:33

we call that griefer play because they only cause grief

Elric Graystone · Apr 21, 2005, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Well it is looking more and more like I will be coming on board. WoW just came out with the asinine patch release called the honor system. You get honor rewards for killing in PvP. The original manual stated this would eventually be made active but you would get dishonor for engaging in PvP with players too many levels below you. However, they decided to do away with dishonor so it has become one big high level killing lowbies zone. There is a huge uproar over at Blizzard about this patch. At level 20 out of 60, I can???t quest now without being killed constantly. Guild Wars could not have picked a better time to be released. I have a feeling there will be a lot more people playing this game then originally anticipated.

Loviatar · Apr 21, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42

i like wandering off into the woods and jungle knowing that the only things trying to kill me are the monsters and if i am killed i keep my loot as well

it is no fun having someont treat you as a moving piggy bank to break

Dreamsmith · Apr 21, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by Elric Graystone

Ganked in World of Warcraft is when your doing a quest or hunting animals or gathering trade goods off the land on your own and out of nowhere you are attacked and killed. Pretty irritating

Yeah, there's no ganking in Guild Wars. Even in PvP areas, you aren't attacked out of no where. Equal sized teams of eight start on opposite ends of the map and engage in (hopefully) organized battle. It's a lot of fun, unlike getting ganked...

Elric Graystone · Apr 21, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52

There is no penalty for being killed in WoW. It's just a hassle if your running solo and they camp at your corpse waiting for you to ressurect. You used to be able to call in friends but now, they are off somewhere else being farmed by level 60's so it's prettty hard to calling in the calvary.

Loviatar · Apr 21, 2005, 09:39 PM // 21:39

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Originally Posted by Elric Graystone

There is no penalty for being killed in WoW. It's just a hassle if your running solo and they camp at your corpse waiting for you to ressurect. You used to be able to call in friends but now, they are off somewhere else being farmed by level 60's so it's prettty hard to calling in the calvary.

could you just log off and leave them?

if not what part of that is supposed to be fun?

Duality · Apr 21, 2005, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by Elric Graystone

WoW just came out with the asinine patch release called the honor system.

yeah, i've heard much complaining about that patch. one friend of mine spent 5 hours trying to get the patch. he had to reinstall the entire game because it got corrupted because of it, which of course meant his patch ended up being 128mb. there was much cussing, and i've been basically dressed in red with a pitchfork, sitting on his shoulder, to get him to try GW. i think WoW just made us another convert.

Elric Graystone · Apr 21, 2005, 11:20 PM // 23:20

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

could you just log off and leave them?

if not what part of that is supposed to be fun?

Being the killer..not the killee.
No seriously, your question is what is being hotly debated over on the WoW forums. There is supposed to be a seperate area called Battlegrounds devoted to this type of play, but Blizzard blew it and released the kill for rewards points before Battlegrounds. So now it's battlegrounds everywhere + no dishonor for killing lowbies. I think it was rushed out to complete with this game.

If you log off you, come back where you were before, dead or alive. So you either wait it out in game for them to leave then ressurect, or just log off and not play for a while. A lot of players maxed out there characters months ago and have done the high level instances. They have been bored waiting for this kill for rewards system. I play on an elite server (Illidan) and its pretty chaotic right now.

Ander Deathblade · Apr 21, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

accept that the pve world is still using a system balanced towards pvp play, and you can still have loads of fun. The game, first and foremost, is beautiful. beautiful beautiful beautiful. lots of content, all hack 'n slash, because its mostly pvp game of course... you won't find a real RPG here, it's a watered down Diablo clone. But so beautiful. The RPG stuff, you'll have to make yourself, depending on the people you hang with.

Loviatar · Apr 21, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

thanks for information
it sounds like a mess

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not the above but the one above that

Apr 20, 2005, 10:59 PM // 22:59	#1
Elric Graystone Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	How is the PvE content long term going to be? I played the beta this weekend I believe in just in the questing area. LOVED IT. But is this game going to be balanced between PvE and PvP? Over on WoW you choose a server to either participate in PvP and ganking or go with a different server. Sounds like this going to all together but have separate quest zones to avoid ganking. But how about game content? Will both be equally as deep with content or be devoted to just one style of gameplay?

Apr 20, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#6
Freyas Champion of the Absurd Join Date: Jan 2005 Guild: Spirits of War Profession: Mo/W	I've been in the alpha for 6 months, and still enjoy the PvE side of the game- I have played through it all, but the high-level areas are still great(think Underworld/Fissure of Woe) for the challenge, and it's enjoyable trying to make it through with different types of characters. Considering they're estimating an expansion every 6 months or so, I don't think that PvE players will get too bored with the content in the game before the next expansion comes out. __________________ Freyas- Spirits of War ~The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity

Apr 20, 2005, 11:04 PM // 23:04	#3
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	i am PVE and think of the game as a PVE wonder with a small area penned off for the pvp players i do not begrudge them the space i think we will have a very good pve time

Apr 20, 2005, 11:41 PM // 23:41	#7
Auh Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005	I believe ganking is where you get teamed up on by multiple opponents, especially when you just went through a portal(A portal would be considered zoning in GW) But, Since you have your own copy of the map, this is practically impossible in GW.

Apr 21, 2005, 12:31 AM // 00:31	#8
Elric Graystone Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	This all sounds really good. Ganked in World of Warcraft is when your doing a quest or hunting animals or gathering trade goods off the land on your own and out of nowhere you are attacked and killed. Pretty irritating

Apr 21, 2005, 12:33 AM // 00:33	#9
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	we call that griefer play because they only cause grief

Apr 21, 2005, 08:38 PM // 20:38	#10
Elric Graystone Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	Well it is looking more and more like I will be coming on board. WoW just came out with the asinine patch release called the honor system. You get honor rewards for killing in PvP. The original manual stated this would eventually be made active but you would get dishonor for engaging in PvP with players too many levels below you. However, they decided to do away with dishonor so it has become one big high level killing lowbies zone. There is a huge uproar over at Blizzard about this patch. At level 20 out of 60, I can???t quest now without being killed constantly. Guild Wars could not have picked a better time to be released. I have a feeling there will be a lot more people playing this game then originally anticipated.

Apr 21, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42	#11
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	i like wandering off into the woods and jungle knowing that the only things trying to kill me are the monsters and if i am killed i keep my loot as well it is no fun having someont treat you as a moving piggy bank to break

Apr 21, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52	#13
Elric Graystone Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	There is no penalty for being killed in WoW. It's just a hassle if your running solo and they camp at your corpse waiting for you to ressurect. You used to be able to call in friends but now, they are off somewhere else being farmed by level 60's so it's prettty hard to calling in the calvary.

Apr 21, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26	#17
Ander Deathblade Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005	accept that the pve world is still using a system balanced towards pvp play, and you can still have loads of fun. The game, first and foremost, is beautiful. beautiful beautiful beautiful. lots of content, all hack 'n slash, because its mostly pvp game of course... you won't find a real RPG here, it's a watered down Diablo clone. But so beautiful. The RPG stuff, you'll have to make yourself, depending on the people you hang with.